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> > On Sunday, March 02, 1997 4:15 AM, Nathan Stratton[SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > @ On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Sean Donelan wrote: > @ > @ Number of routes, I know of 2 ISPs that we provided access to that were > @ mad because the nic gave them /19 and not /18. The providers are now out > @ of business and there are 2 /19 not being used, but at least they are not > @ /18. If the provider did get larger the nic would have gladly taken back > @ the /19 and given them a /18. > @ > > If there were regional IP registries that had an economic incentive > to reclaim those 2 /19s, then those would be recycled and reused. > > If you accept that people are going to fail, then you have to plan > in advance for taking allocations back, or better yet, not renewing > the lease. This happens in real estate with office space all the > time. > > Many buildings do not fragment their space because they have > a hard time leasing small spaces. Again, there are economic > and market-based reasons for this. It would be nice if the same > could be said for IP addresses. > > The ARIN discussions (http://www.arin.net) focus on some > of these topics. > Actually, the ARIN mailing list is not the place to discuss this, the PAGAN list is. I do agree that something needs to be done to begin recapturing unused space, especially from those organizations no longer in business. This issue was raised in the IRE/PAGAN BOF at the last IETF and needs to continue being seriously discussed. Kim > -- > Jim Fleming > Unir Corporation > > e-mail: > [email protected] > [email protected] (EDNS/IPv8) > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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