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RE: Just got on this thing (perhaps very belatedly) - root server trouble?

  • From: Jim Fleming
  • Date: Tue Feb 18 14:11:05 1997
  • Encoding: 539 TEXT

On Tuesday, February 18, 1997 12:40 PM, Paul A Vixie[SMTP:[email protected]] wrote:
@ > BTW, there are 2010-complient roots going in.  And, if you secondary root
@ > from us, you'll get that update automatically when it happens.....
@ And, if you secondary "." from MCS, you will get data that only a small
@ fraction of the net sees, and it will conflict with data that large portions
@ of the net see, and it will conflict with other petty fiefdoms run by other
@ provincial wannabes who think that THEY and not MCS ought to run/own ".".
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Folks, please face the facts. The U.S. Government controls
the Internet. It has always been that way and it will likely always
be that way. It is a resource that many people depend on and
businesses are investing because of the stability, security, and
opportunities that the U.S. Government provides.

If you want to assemble a real "Blue Ribbon Panel" that
represents the real Internet society, I suggest that you start
with some or all of the people below. These are the people who
control the popular Root Name Servers and are the people
mandated by the people to "do the right thing". They are also
some of the people supported by U.S. taxpayers dollars to
make sure that federal government resources such as the
Root Name Servers are used properly according to the laws
in the United States.

We are rapidly approaching March 1, 1997. There will be one
year left on the InterNIC agreements developed by the National
Science Foundation (NSF). Everyone needs to work together
to make sure that those agreements remain stable for one
more year and that plans are made to ensure that any transitions
are smooth and do not impact the stability of the Internet.

The current attempts to fragment the InterNIC are not in
the best interest of the Internet. Instead, the InterNIC should
be kept in tact and used as an educational model to help
create additional "NICs" across the United States to spread
the wealth and jobs around and to ensure better stability
via distributed management.

I have suggested that the NSF use the $12.6 million to
help launch 49 additional NICs, one in each state except for
Virginia. By March of 1998, hopefully enough NICs will be
operational to allow the current InterNIC as we know it to
take its place with the others as a state NIC controlled by
the people of Virginia.

Many people have worked hard over the past couple of years
to demonstrate that cooperating and competing regional NICs
can coexist. The technology is well understood and with the
stewardship of some or all of the people below, I am confident
that the original NSF plan to expand the NICs can be
accomplished by the time the NSF agreements with AT&T
and Network Solutions, Inc. end.

In order to get the regional NICs up to speed, I suggest that
states follow the NSF InterNIC model and "ousource" the
work to regional companies that have demonstrated their
expertise in not only Internet technology but also the emerging
registry industry. I suggest that these companies work with
their state governments to gain support to work with the
elected officials below to get things moving. There is only
one year left. Time is getting short.

Rather than have anyone rush into dismantling the InterNIC
why not join together to clone the InterNIC, not once, but
at least 49 times to help the Internet grow. Once this is
demonstrated, then obviously the lessons learned will
help fuel international growth. No one will be left out.

If other countries want to join in this effort, I suggest that
they follow a similar plan. Think global but start local. It
is the only way that you will make any real progress. I am
sure that many people in the U.S. will be glad to lend a
hand to get things moving. Hopefully, there will be many
examples and more educational programs developed as
these efforts unfold.

There is no reason why anyone should be left out but
there is also no reason why people should hold back
waiting for people to catch up. With the clock ticking
and $12.6 million in the bank, it is time to duplicate
the prototype in Virginia in every state and each country.

It is not time to dismantle the prototype. If that occurs
then much of the knowledge will be lost and the money
the U.S. taxpayers spent to build the InterNIC will be
wasted. Again, the following people have the mandate
of the people to make sure that money and the efforts
are not wasted. They work daily to maximize the return
on the taxpayer's investment. Let them know that you
want to work with them to make sure you also benefit

from those efforts in your states and countries.

Thank you for your time...


President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore

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		Research and Infrastructure
	National Science Foundation
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	Network Solutions, Inc. (NS45-HST)

	Army Research Laboratory (BRL-AOS)
	Moffett Field (NS-NASA)


	University of Southern California (ISI2)
		Dr. Stephen B. Sample
		ADM 110
		University of Southern California
		University Park, mc-0012
		Los Angeles, CA 90089-0012
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	University of Maryland (UMD-TERP)
		Dr. William E. Kirwan
		President, University of Maryland at College Park
		Legal Affairs
			Dr. J. Terrance Roach <mailto: [email protected]>


	Performance Systems International Inc. (C-NYSER)
		510 Huntmar Park Drive
		Herndon, VA 22070
	Internet Software Consortium (ISC)
		Internet Software Consortium (ISC2-DOM)
		c/o UUNET Communications Services
		3110 Fairview Park Drive
		Suite 570
		Falls Church, VA 22042
		Domain Name: ISC.ORG       

	Contact: (See below)
	[No name] (NORDU)


Internet Software Consortium (ISC)

   System: DEC ALPHA running BIND 4.9.5

   Host Administrator:
      Vixie, Paul  (PV15)  [email protected]
      +1 415 747 0204

   Domain Server

   Record last updated on 09-Oct-96.

Network Solutions, Inc. (NS45-HST)
   505 Huntmar Park Drive
   Herndon, VA 22070

   System: SUN running SUNOS

   Host Administrator:
      Kosters, Mark A.  (MAK21)  [email protected]
      (703) 742-4795 (FAX) (703) 742-4811

   Record last updated on 31-Aug-95.

University of Southern California (ISI2)
   Information Sciences Institute
   4676 Admiralty Way
   Marina del Rey, CA 90292

   System: ? running ?

   Host Administrator:
      Koda, Jim  (JK7)  [email protected]
      310) 822-1511

   Record last updated on 12-Aug-95.

University of Maryland (UMD-TERP)
   Computer Science Center
   College Park, MD 20742

   System: MICROVAX-II running UNIX

      Sneeringer, Gerry  (GS307)  [email protected]
      (301) 405-2996

   domain server

   Record last updated on 12-Aug-95.

Army Research Laboratory (BRL-AOS)
   Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD  21005-5066

   System: SUN running UNIX

   Host Administrator:
      Fielding, James L.  (JLF)  [email protected]
      (410)278-8929 (DSN) 298-8929 (410)278-6664 (FAX) (410)278-5077

   domain server

   Record last updated on 17-Aug-95.

Performance Systems International Inc. (C-NYSER)

   System: SUN running UNIX

      Administration, PSINet Domain  (PDA4)  [email protected]
      (703) 904-4100

   domain server

   Record last updated on 17-Apr-96.

[No name] (NORDU)

   System: SUN-4/60 running UNIX

      Rendahl, Matti [President]  (MR164)  [email protected]
      +46 8 612 49 26 +46 70 533 13 56 (FAX) +46 8 612 49 36

   Record last updated on 24-Aug-95.

Moffett Field (NS-NASA)
   NASA Ames Research Center, Mail Stop 233-8
   Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000

   System: SUN running SUNOS

   Host Administrator, Coordinator:
      Schlapfer, Marcel  (MS4039)  [email protected]
      1-415-604-0955 (FAX) 1-415-604-0036

   domain server

   Record last updated on 25-Oct-96.

   Suite 200
   14200 Park Meadow Dr.
   Chantilly, VA 22021

   System: SUN running UNIX

      McCollum, Robert W.  (RM584)  [email protected]
      (703) 802-8476 (FAX) (703) 802-8376

   Root Domain Server

   Record last updated on 18-Aug-95.


Jim Fleming
Unir Corporation

[email protected]
[email protected] (EDNS/IPv8)

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