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On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Barry Shein wrote: > I suppose that's why the four digit account number he uses keeps > changing, they look like this: So what? > C'mon, this is silly, why when confronted with an actual problem do > people get such an urge to play devil's advocate and spin wild > possibilities? Are you just amusing yourself, just in deep denial, > what? Well so far you haven't said what is really happening other than a vague claim about an excessively high rate of email messages. Have you inspected any of these messages to determine if, in fact, this is merely his normal message stream, or if, in fact, there is some kind of loop set up by your mailer's refusals? Obviously, if your mailer's behavior is perpetuating the flood, then you have a moral and a legal obligation to fix that behavior. And if you are going to post something on a technical list like this then you also have an obligation to provide details. Otherwise, there is no point in posting it here because your words won't help other operators who might find themselves in a similar situation. > I don't mean to get sarcastic but why is this attack the victim stuff > helpful or desireable? Damn right it's desirable. This isn't a list for victims to whine and moan. If there is a technical problem then please explain the details because people on this list might be able to help. So far there have been two good suggestions related to blackholing at your router and to joining the spam filter distribution via OSPF. > Oh well, ok, maybe you win, maybe we're fucked, get used to it, on Jan > 4, 1997 everybody just gave up and decided everything was someone > else's problem. This sounds remarkably like your own attitude. Here you are posting on this list asking us to fix the problem. A more productive attitude would be to ask what *YOU* can do to solve the problem and then to implement some of the suggestions. And all the emotional language you have posted to the list has obscured the fact that you have given remarkably little technical detail as to what is happening and why this is making you so frazzled. Contrast this with the SYN flood attacks a few months back when people explained what was happening to them and others on the list joined in to assist them in alleviating and ultimately fixing the problem. Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: [email protected] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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