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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change (fwd)

  • From: R. Eric Bennett
  • Date: Tue Nov 26 10:52:43 1996

> At 9:37 AM 11/26/96, Avi Freedman wrote:
> > Route reflecting sounds like a good topic - could I interest any of you
> > in presenting on it?
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Susan R. Harris, Ph.D.         Merit Network, Inc.         [email protected]
> I would be willing to present, though as I said I think a separate meeting
> to see what people really want is needed.
> I think the issues are:
> o (Briefly) The politics and technology of peering
> o Easier peering between multiple parties: MLPA
> o Since no NAP operator is going to enforce an MLPA, how can peering between
>   multiple willing parties still be made to happen with less people time
>   involved in the setup?
> o Why might the RA not be the best tool - or why might it be?
> o Possible goal:
>   o Participants sign a contract expressing a desire to peer with anyone
>     else signing the contract (not exclusively) through a route-reflecting
>     box.
>   o You can only offer routes for you and "your customers" via this.  No
>     partial transit to specific people can be offered.
>   o Boxes at each interesting exchange point that people can then peer with
>     to effect the agreement.  One or two Cisco 2501s would work fine, but
>     RA-type boxes which can "hide" their ASs in the middle might be
>     interesting as well (Peter Lothberg arguments about BGP not being
>     designed to 'work that way' possibly put aside).
>   o Filtering:
>     o Box-side filtering to enforce sanity?
> o Concerns
>   o Who's going to run the thing?
>   o Network stability?
>   o What happens to control bad neighbors?
> Or, perhaps a separate mailing list is needed in the interim to allow
> people to discuss the issue without boring uninterested members of
> the nanog list...

While your outline sounds great wrt its chosen topic, the topic doesn't
sound like what I consider to be route-reflecting -- specifically, route
reflection in (i)BGP.  Your outline sounds more like "politics and
operational issues surrounding peering and route-serving at a NAP."  Can
someone clarify which of the two topics is the burning topic that people
would like presented?

Note that both topics may be burning issues and worthy of a presentation at
the next NANOG...


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