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Re: Compu$erve RFC 1123 5.3.3 violation

  • From: Jamie
  • Date: Sat Nov 16 11:42:45 1996

> The following bounce from Comp$Serve violates RFC 1123 5.3.3.  They have
> been repeatedly informed of this and refuse to fix their mail system.

They also have another problem which their sysadmins refuse to fix (I've
e-mailed them so many times, they just say "well, it works so go away")

-- snip --
$ host compuserve.com
[...]
compuserve.com mail is handled (pri=10) by mailgate.compuserve.com

$ host mailgate.compuserve.com
mailgate.compuserve.com is a nickname for mx3.compuserve.com
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.206.135
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.177.136
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.217.133
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.217.137
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.217.136
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.217.135
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.177.134
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.177.133
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.206.137
mx3.compuserve.com has address 149.174.206.136
-- snip --

*sigh*

> Hence mailing lists here prevent subscription by Compu$erve addressees.
> I suggest that others, e.g. the nanog list, do the same.
> 
> randy
> 
> 
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: 15 Nov 96 17:14:16 EST
> From: Electronic Postmaster <[email protected]>
> Comments: Returned from:  <[email protected]>
> Message-Type: Delivery Report
> To: Randy Bush <[email protected]>
> Subject: Undeliverable message
> 
> Your message could not be delivered for the following reason:
> 
> Mailbox 103311.571 is currently full.
> Please resend your message at a later time.
> 
> --- Returned message ---
> 
> Sender: [email protected]
> Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by hil-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515)
> 	id RAA08607; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:14:11 -0500
> Received: from localhost ([email protected]) by merit.edu (8.7.6/merit-2.0) with SMTP id QAA12118; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:50:34 -0500 (EST)
> Received: by merit.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:50:32 -0500
> Received: (from [email protected]) by merit.edu (8.7.6/merit-2.0) id QAA12106 for nanog-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:50:32 -0500 (EST)
> Received: from rip.psg.com ([email protected] [147.28.0.39]) by merit.edu (8.7.6/merit-2.0) with SMTP id QAA12099 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:50:28 -0500 (EST)
> Received: by rip.psg.com 
> 	id m0vOW9V-0007zfC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 13:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1)
> Message-Id: <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 13:50 PST
> To: Scott Huddle <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> From: Randy Bush <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: The Cidr Report
> References: <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> 
> >> Number of ASes announcing only one prefix:  737 (378 cidr, 359 classful
> > Wow!  Is a correct assumption that some 40% of the ASs could be 
> > reclaimed?
> 
> I do not see how you get to this conclusion.  He did not say number of ASs
> which only appear through one other unique AS, i.e. are single homed.  Oh,
> Joel!
> 
> >> Largest number of  cidr routes:                    461 announced by AS3561
> >> Largest number of classful routes:                1266 announced by  AS174
> > Neat stuff.  Could you list the top ten or five of each of these?
> 
> What is a 'top' prefix?  Lowest IP?  Shortest prefix?  Actually, for
> embarrassment sake, I would want to see the most likely candidates for
> aggregation.  But if I wanna see it, I can look in one of my routers.
> 
> >> Top 20 Withdrawn Routes from 08Nov96 to 15Nov96
> >> 	-304  AS174 Performance Systems International
> > Are congrats due to PSI?
> 
> Far out!  Maybe so!  
> 
> >> 	 -50 AS2914 WNA, premasticated for MCI :-)
> > ???
> 
> Sorry.  I have to convert my RADB RPSL one into a placeholder RIPE-181++ for
> the MCI-RR, and that's the descr:.  For the real aut-num: see the RADB.  I
> would think Tony would be picking up the latter.  Old habits, TB?
> 
> randy
> 


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