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Re: Provider credibility - does it matter? was Re: Inter-provider relations

  • From: Peter Lothberg
  • Date: Sun Oct 27 02:58:31 1996 
>    Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:44:51 +0100 (BST)
>    From: Jim Dixon <[email protected]>
> 
>    Not at all necessarily correct.  We are a UK backbone provider.  We carry 
>    much of our traffic 6000 miles to California over very expensive Atlantic
>    circuits, where we pass it off to American providers, who use very cheap
>    and much shorter US links.  We ship about 5% more traffic to the USA than
>    we get back.  So on balance we are subsidizing the US Internet:
> 
>    *	we pay more to carry the packets
>    *	we give more than we receive
> 
> Before you go making statements like that, please answer the following
> questions:
> 
> 1) How many US ISP's customers would notice if vbc.net fell off the
> net?
> 
> 2) How many of vbc.net's customers would notice if the USA fell off
> the net?
> 
> You're welcome to stop subsidizing the US Internet any time you
> please.  And be sure to put a note in your trouble ticket system
> reminding your customers not to let the doorknob hit them in the ass
> on the way out the door...
> 
> If I live more than a mile and a half or so from a central office,
> installation of a T1 will require a special engineering fee.  Unlike
> you, I'm not cheeky enough to assert that my unfortunate location
> represents a subsidy to the US Internet.
> 
>                                         ---Rob
> 
> 


I have a suggestion;

	Take the BB-cost of the foreign provider, include the trans-
	oceanic link, add this to the BB-cost of the US peer and
	divide the sum equally.

--Peter
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