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Karl Denninger <[email protected]> wrote: >Any provider that does not recognize the value of bilateral, no-settlement >peering anywhere that its cost-effective for both parties (ie: if you have >traffic destined for me, get it on MY network where I'm being paid to >carry it and let ME figure the rest out!) deserves what they get. Zero-settlement peerings open to anyone are demonstrably amount to subsidies from large peers to small. That already was beaten to death. However, i repeat the argument: Big Provider Customer A ---[POP] ------------- 1000 miles -----------[POP] | IXP | Customer B ------[POP]-1 mile-[POP] Small Provider When customers A and B talk Big Provider pays to get them through 1000 miles. Small Provider pays for 1 mile. Note that i didn't even talk about less measurabe, but way too more important things like hosting of information suppliers. Say, Big Provider connects 1000 web sites; Small Provider hosts 1 site -- benefit from peering in terms of Web site diversity to the Big Provider's customers is 0.1%. To Small Provider's customers the benefit of peering is 99.9%. Zero-settlements work only when peers are of comparable size. Any attempt to extort pressure to force it upon anyone simply causes large folks to flee. --vadim - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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