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Re: Ungodly packet loss rates

  • From: Craig A. Huegen
  • Date: Tue Oct 22 00:36:39 1996

On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Billy Biggs wrote:

==>Looking for opinions here: Do I have the right, as a citizen of the 
==>internet, to phone up the NOC of another major provider to solve packet 
==>loss through their routers?

Let's put it in another perspective.  You go to Safeway, and you want some
oranges.  Unfortunately, Safeway's provider of oranges is having a problem
getting Safeway oranges that are orange enough.

Do you have the right to call up Safeway's provider?  Not really.  And
even if you did call them up, what do you think will do a better job;
asking safeway--as a paying customer--to convey your messages, or calling
their distributor direct?  

I know plenty of technical support managers who would, if called
by a non-customer, be not-so-happy that his support structure is spending
time helping non-customers as opposed to customers, the people that make
the money for the company.

A friend of mine, who works for an ISP, says that when some of his
customers called their upper-level NSP to complain, the NSP wasn't too
happy and asked them to please remind their customers to call their own
support organization, and filter the problems up if they begin to receive
a number of complaints.

Just my $0.02.

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