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Hola, > There seems to be a confusion between private leaf networks (which nobody > generally cares about) and the major backbone (as I-2 advocates portray it). > Nobody cares about AUPs in leaf networks. AUPs in transit backbones > are evil. Or everybody already forgot NSFNET AUP and the tons of > related hackery in routing policies all around the world? The interesting thing to me below is the assumption that there is an inherent difference between a transit backbone and a private leaf network. Other than the likely lack of separate ASes within a leaf network, the difference is the policy of the network, in addition to the topoligical contiguity to other folks. Certainly this is significant. Yes I _know_ one could say that a backbone doesn't have any real destinations on it, but the distinction is rather vague. Clearly with loose source routing, one could make most any (properly unfiltered) leaf node network a transit network, if there were some motivation for doing this (but there wouldn't be, would there? :) I believe Manning makes a good point that an AUP is inherent to a network. We have seen an increase in the discussions of AUP with respect to backbones (MCI/SL/UU). The discussions regarding dumping defaults and forced routing to destinations not advertised all centered around AUP. > Actually, that Clinton's network "initiative" is entirely in line with > their other efforts to curb the free flow of information -- particularly > at the place where there is a contingent of young people who would be > affected most by the information. It is no secret that political views > ofmost people who have spent some time with Internet tend to shift to > more libertaran, as they get taste for free communication not generally > afforded by the "democratic" system. Hence the effective opposition to > the encryption policy and CDA. Sure as hell, after such embarrasment > the administation does not like intelligentsia to have a voice. While the case is there, it is not that strong. I think Sagan calls it a pseudoscientific argument.... > Don't fool yourself. The I-2 is not the "faster Internet". It is > a tool to force those pesky free-thinkers to shut up. Maybe. More likely it's a tool to give Higher Education institutions a QOS independant from the commercial world (also cheaper). I don't blindly accept the altruistic guise under which it was presented, but I do think there are sig. other reasons beyond government control. (On the other hand, Vadim does have more history on this than I do...) $0.02 rubles, Alan - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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