North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: AGIS Route Flaps Interrupting its Peering?
> On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Mark Kent wrote: > > > An appropriate audience would have been the AGIS noc and the Digex > > noc. > > Wrong! It's an operations issue and it SHOULD be on NANOG or a global > outages list if such should some day exist. i have to agree, strongly. > > > Could you share your findings? If there was a problem, I think > > > we'd all prefer an explanation rather than a finger shaking for > > > having interest. > > > > My key point is that nothing of interest happened. > > There are hundreds of providers learning how to deal with multihoming and > peering. Anything like this is of interest because people need to know how > to recognize and solve problems to keep the global network running. > > > This was a > > non-issue until the misinformation was blasted around the Internet > > technical universe. > > Yep, no doubt about it. If you create the environment for misinformation > to spread then it WILL spread. However, you can fix this. If timely an > accurate outage information is available from everybody then > misinformation won't spread and where it does manage to propogate it will > merely be static. this is the major problem i had with the large provider i worked for. the corporate motto was "if we have something broken, we don't want *anyone* else to know about it..." "it's none of *their* business if we have routers melting down..." and my favorate response to customers asking for an "outage notification list" was to create the list, not use it for 6 months, and then come up with some generic statements like "we are having technical difficulty, we;re working on it". complete crap in my opinion. it did nothing but insult customers' intelligence. i agree with what michael is saying (i wont' be struck by lightening will i?) 100%. *timely* disclosure of problems like this would avoid misinformation and bring back a small bit of the spirit of the net that was lost some time back.... *cooperation*. -brett - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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