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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Ping flooding (fwd)
According to: Michael Dillon > > Are there any procedures in place to track down this kind of network > abuse. In particular, is it possible that it is a stealth attack? > Before you answer, take note that this is going to appear in Bob > Metcalfe's column next week. > what is, how to forge a ping attack expiditing the eminent death of the net? :) > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:30:43 -0600 (MDT) > From: Kevin Rosenberg <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Ping flooding > Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:30:53 -0600 (MDT) > Resent-From: [email protected] > > > Some months later we had an incident of massive amounts of forged email > > from a site called SUNSETDIRECT.COM. For several weeks they sent forged > > We are currently undergoing a ping flood attack, though our upstream > provider has filtered icmp from the host so the flood is no longer > affecting our T1 line. > > The system administrator of the site that appears to be flooding us > doesn't believe his site is the source of the attack. He states that he > can't see the icmp packets, though I don't know how he is sniffing his > wire. > > My questions are these: > > Is it possible for someone to forged the source IP address of an icmp > packet? > > If so, do they have to be in some routing proximity, or can they forge the > source address while they are connected from anywhere in the world? > > Thanks! > yes, forging a ping attack is pretty easy and can be done from anywhere with any source address (of course, who knows where the responses will end up), the routing proximity is irrelavant, since the source is not looked at (unless filters have been put in place, such as what the upstream provider has apparently done). the only _I can think of_ in tracking it down, would be to backtrack the possible paths into the router. either by sniffing the possible lines coming into router, or by temporarily disabling icmp echo reqs. from all but one incoming line, until you've found the offending line, continuing back. of course this may be impossible in many cases since you probably don't have access to the equipment (or cooperation) outside of your domain. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kevin Rosenberg | CyberPort Station > Chief System Administrator | The Finest Internet Service Possible! > [email protected] | http://www.cyberport.com > Finger [email protected] for PGP Public Key > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ============================== ISP Mailing List ============================== > Email ``unsubscribe'' to [email protected] to be removed. > Do not post flames to the list -- if you must flame, use private email. > -- - rusty [email protected] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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