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Re: [NIC-960209.1757] Routing Problem (fwd)

  • From: Sean Donelan
  • Date: Sat Feb 17 17:31:36 1996

>Yes, so why not take you address space from you upstreem provider and 
>yes, when you need to change it. We started with 1 /24 then, /23 then 
>/19, all from Sprintlink. We then added a MCI connection and the Internic 
>gave us a /18, then we got connected to a NAP, the NIC gave us one more 
>/18. Yes, we had to renumber off the /24, /23, and are still working on 
>the /19. 
>The point is that the NIC has no idea how long you will be in business, 
>or if you need the space at all. I am provding access to right now 10 
>ISP, that will be gone in a year, and have watch that many die so far. 

Obviously you don't know the right people.  While some startup ISP's
get a /19.  Other startup ISP's with no customers get a /14.  And why
renumber if you can get IANA to align an entire /8 before you even
have customers?

Perhaps there are some unpublished criteria being used to distinguished
between these ISP's market projections.  The published criteria don't
seem to be sufficient to explain these dispararities.  Since these
allocations happened before these startup ISP companies had any customers,
I don't understand what method for evaluating "effective utilization"
would lead to these companies getting such large allocations.  Other than
relying on rosy engineering diagrams and optimistic market studies.

The phase of the moon seems to be as good an explaination as any.

The backing of a large cable or bell operating company isn't a good
predictor of success.  Yet these type of companies seem to be getting
larger than average allocations for their ISP businesses before having
any customers.  Whatever happened to all those set-top boxes for
interactive television?
Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO
  Affiliation given for identification not representation