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> > This is great, I feel like one of the in crowd - getting slammed by Tim Bass :-) Seriously, I wasn't trying to put it on an emotional level - just trying to point out some basic issues that haven't been mentioned. Sometimes you have to do what's best for the Internet as a whole while not necessarily what's best for you personally. Some are willing to do this and some aren't. Also, I wasn't referring to the ISPs that want portable address space. As I stated in the message I understand why ISPs don't want to be dependant upon their upstream providers. Kim > [ ... ] > > Someone summarizes: > > > > > Now, I'm sure that every ISP reading this message cares very deeply > > for the Internet (as does the InterNIC) and utilizes address space > > efficiently, etc. But consider the hundreds of ISPs that don't. > > > > > > Sorry, but here we go again, back to playing on emotions and guilt. > > " .... cares very deeply for the Internet..... " > > Just because a start-up ISP desires portable address space and does > not want to be dependent on a up-stream service provider does not > translate to the emotional position.... > > " .... don't care very deeply for the Internet..... " > > The natural direction of a conversation that has sunk to this level > is to degrade to name calling, slander, and high emotional feelings. > > PLEASE do not degenerate this conversation to this level. It is > not a "good and evil" "care and don't care" "black and white" issue. > Just because ISPs (whom ever they are and where ever they many live) > disagree with the up-stream, provider based world that the world > has created, their rights, opinions and ideas should be respected. > > If there are real 'demons' in the world, it is when issues, ideas, > and opinions are reduced to 'black and white', 'good and bad' > ' you are right and she is wrong' oversimplifications that serve > only to mask the real issues. > > { and then ... there are those in the world who enjoy that tact as well } > > Take care, > > Tim > > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Tim Bass | | > | Principal Network Systems Engineer | "... images are the literature | > | The Silk Road Group, Ltd. | of the layman." | > | | | > | http://www.silkroad.com/ | Umberto Eco | > | | | > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > >
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