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Sarcasm warning.... > From: Sean Doran <[email protected]> > A couple quick points: the place to go to for this kind > of thing should be your direct service provider, who hopefully > has some means of communicating with upstream and peer providers > when things are going wrong somehow, or at least might be > able to give you some additional information. > It should not surprise you that I am no stranger to the folks at my "direct service provider", on either the local or national sides.... > NANOG and other lists aren't appropriate places to discuss > specific problems. OTOH, general problems, such as how big > the Internet is and how saturated well-known-things seem to > be and what might be done about it, could be OK here. > IMnsHO, the _only_ way to discuss engineering is with specific problems! NANOG is damn well the appropriate place to discuss _this_ specific problem! The problem is trying to cram the entire world's traffic through a few NAPs, instead of many MIXs. The problem is the outright failure of the design of the first NAPs, particularly the MAE-East "ethernet" and the "ATM" NAPs. The problem is scaling, and the _cheapness_ of the commercial providers in failing to provide widespread interconnections with each other. > I should also note that Sprint and MCI are in the final > phases of negotiating direct point-to-point peerings which > will pop up in several areas, and improve connectivity > between SprintLink and InternetMCI. You wouldn't be far off > in expecting this to become something of a trend, > particularly among a small number of the large heavy-traffic > providers, for whom the NAP/MAE/FIX concepts and models > don't seem to be scaling well in practice. > You mean, we might end up with a Network instead of a Treework!?!? Halleluia! [email protected] Key fingerprint = 2E 07 23 03 C5 62 70 D3 59 B1 4F 5E 1D C2 C1 A2
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