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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: AS690 use of multiple routing registries
How about just doing like all other ISPs do? I.e. do policy at as-path level w/o the benefit of RADB. You don't need any new software to do that, and can do that right tomorrow. As it is now the ANS's policy to use RADB data to filter incoming routing updates generates about 60% of our trouble tickets, which is particularly aggravated by the fact that in most cases the resolution is completely outside of our control (like in case of AS 1800). IMO RADB already created more troubles than it will ever help to fix. I see no particluar reason for Sprint to spend any resources on keeping ANS's exterior routing sane. So do not expect "advisory: AS690" from us. Of course, (as ICM _has_ AUP) we can always start demanding NACRs from ANS. Just to make people who make decisions there to wake up. --vadim To: [email protected] Subject: AS690 use of multiple routing registries Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:44:47 -0400 From: Steve Heimlich <[email protected]> Status: R Folks, This note outlines changes to the ANS AS690 use of various registries which comprise the Internet Routing Registry (IRR). [RIPE gang, please forward to your mailing lists as appropriate]. Currently, the IRR consists of the following four well-known registries: the RADB, the CA*Net registry, the MCI registry, and the RIPE registry. AS690, to date, has relied exclusively on the RADB for generation of its configurations. As a result, those organizations which would naturally register in the MCI, CA*Net, or RIPE registries have been making redundant registrations in the RADB to ensure connectivity with ANS. This redundant registration has been inconvenient for many, and leads to multiple copies of route objects with inconsistent attributes. As of next week, ANS will begin to use route objects from the CA*Net, MCI, and RIPE routing registries. In order to do this, we will first create an ANS registry (containing customers of ANS) with "source: ANS" as its distinguishing attribute. Beginning with next Wednesday's AS690 config run (changed from Tuesday due to the U.S. Memorial Day holiday), we will prefer routes with AS690 advisories from these registries in the following order: ANS, CA*Net, MCI, and the RADB. Once we verify that this has succeeded, we will include the RIPE registry ahead of the RADB on next Friday's config run (i.e., ANS, CA*Net, MCI, RIPE, RADB). This method for config generation will eliminate the need for multiple registrations of singly-homed routes. Toward the end of June, we expect to have software running which will eliminate the use of AS690 advisories. This software generates an initial policy first by using registered advisories (a one-time operation). Currently, this results in a 16,000 line aut-num object for AS690. As this is somewhat unreasonable, we will be reducing the number of per-network exceptions in favor of one policy per home AS. As we approach the deployment of this capability, we will be working with peer providers on arranging mutually acceptable policies with AS690. Steve |