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On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 04:52:46PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Sure. I'd also like to see providers actually just shut off customers that originate stuff like ms-sql slammer packets still. But it keeps flowing. I'm sure there are smurf amps and other badness still going. codered anyone? Saying something is Operational (and on-topic for nanog) does not mean you should de-peer them. That said, I will not stop you from de-peering a network who can't keep its table clean. Your network, your decision. If LLNW is not being filtered by telecom italia, time for 6762 to fix that. If they persist, will you depeer them as a security risk until they clean up their act? You wield a much bigger hammer than 99.999% of the people here, and you know it. I'm not saying I would actually do that, but there is a question of what level of action should be taken to resolve these issues, and a timescale for their resolution. I've found some networks excellent to work with, and others "we'll stop leaking to you in a few days once we finish escalating the issue to our tier-n NOC in XXX city". While I doubt "shame" will work in all but the most extreme cases, I believe brokeness does, eventually have an impact. Let's just hope that impact is not blunted by (for instance) monopoly power, so that "voting with your wallet" will force network to fix things. Too bad we know monopoly power is blunting most of the effects. :( P.S. Obligatory BCP38 shout-out, even though it's not exactly on- point. Just thought I'd say "BCP38" again. -- TTFN, patrick
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