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Re: SMURF amplifier block list

  • From: Dean Anderson
  • Date: Fri Apr 17 18:41:54 1998

>:I will concede that shutting off connectivity to a site by a large enough
>:chunk of the net should get someone to fix stuff....  But part of the
>:advantage of the MAPS RBL BGP feed is that it helps to cut down spam
>:coming into your network.  A BGP feed TODAY won't block a ping
>:amplification attack aimed at your network or a downstream.  All it will
>:do is prevent your customers from using the ping amplification networks to
>:launch an attack.   And, if you have the appropriate anti-spoofing filters
>:in place, they shouldn't be able to attack anything other than the valid
>:source addresses you have in your outbound filter set.

MAPS RBL BGP feed blocks all traffic back to a given network, after a
spamming event. It doesn't do too much to stop an in progress event, since
it doesn't respond that quickly with updates. (part [most?] of the delay is
Vixie's investigation)  Its effective because it puts a lot of pressure on
networks that hosts spammers to make sure it doesn't happen again.  Thus,
it tends to reduce spam.

Likewise, a Smurf BGP feed won't stop an in-progess attack, but it will put
a lot of pressure on smurfable networks to make sure they aren't smurfable
in the future.  And thats a pretty good tool, even if its not 100%
effective.

		--Dean


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