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7505 with an RSP4 is a supported configuration. It can be ordered as the CISCO7505/4. At 10:34 AM 7/1/97 -0400, Deepak Jain wrote: > >My first question is: Have you ever tried putting an RSP2 in a 7505? It >ships with an RSP, second, have you tried putting an RSP4 in a 7505? It >works too. Cisco isn't real happy about it, and of course I wouldn't >recommend it, but it works. > >Next, if your network is that busy, you honestly don't keep that >kind of spare/upgrade equipment around? > >-Deepak. > >On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Wayne Bouchard wrote: > >> Thats my point. It often ISN'T easy. For example, say you've got a >> 7505 in one spot and find its getting killed. You can't put an rsp4 in >> a 7505. You've got to replace the router. Anyone got any spare 7507s >> or 7513s lying around? Chances are that if they do, its 2 or 3. >> >> Its actually going to be a bit more problematic to split the load >> between two routers since that can mean notable changes in the >> internal routing or the BGP tables. Not to mention calculating what >> kind of traffic is going to pass BETWEEN the two routers. >> >> Straightforward, yes. Easy, no. >> >> > Why wouldn't upgrading the router's CPU or splitting the load between two >> > separate routers solve the problem? Maybe that's not an overnight >> > solution [unless you have spare RSPs in the POP/colo point] but it seems >> > pretty straight forward to me. >> > >> > -Deepak. >> > >> > On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Wayne Bouchard wrote: >> > >> > > I know one of the problems that UUNET has been having (and I believe >> > > several other folks as well) is high CPU usage on many of their >> > > routers. (When the ping times to the router itself get high its either >> > > a congested link or, usually, a router thats spinning hard..) However, >> > > thats not a problem you can fix easily or fix overnight. >> > > >> > > > Oh God, NYC1. Look out for that ugly beast... We are unfortunate enough >> > > > to have a connection off of that thing. The NOC is good, if you're up for >> > > > entertainment. Let me count the times I've heard "what's traceroute" on >> > > > the phone with them. Let me tell you about outages where they "forgot to >> > > > take the loopback off the T" for like 6 hours. Or my favorite (once you >> > > > hit a high-level brainwashed engineer) the good old "I don't see *any* >> > > > packet loss, so everything is OK". "Yes, but I'm seeing ping times of >> > > > 500ms to your router, and our line isn't near saturation by a long >> > > > shot"... "I don't see any packet loss", etc... >> > > > >> > > > blech. I would not recommend them to my worst enemy. >> > > > >> > > > Charles >> > > > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > > > Charles Sprickman Internet Channel >> > > > INCH System Administration Team (212)243-5200 >> > > > [email protected] [email protected] >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Alex Rubenstein wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:18:06 -0400 >> > > > > From: Alex Rubenstein <[email protected]> >> > > > > To: Josh Beck <[email protected]>, [email protected] >> > > > > Subject: Re: Plethora of UUnet outages and instabilities >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > All I know is they suck moose nipples, and I disconnected from them last >> > > > > week. They have been having problems in/around cr1.nyc1 for MONTHS now, and >> > > > > they are doing nothing (that I can see) to fix it. Thier first-level >> > > > > support is horrendous. One guy once said to me, "Routers have >> > > > > processors?!". Another hung up when I told him to put "CUSTOMER IS IRATE" >> > > > > on the trouble ticket. >> > > > > >> > > > > There are some GOOD guys over there, but them seem to be disappearing? (are >> > > > > you there, Mr. Hannan?) >> > > > > >> > > > > HELLO, GENUITY (anyone who is looking for a new provider, Genuity is DAMN >> > > > > good. and a DAMN good NOC. Sales guys are a little whacky, tho). >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > At 02:12 PM 6/30/97 -0700, Josh Beck wrote: >> > > > > >Has everyone else been seeing the almost daily UUnet outages recently, >> > > > > >does anyone know what the true causes of these have been? >> > > > > >> > > > > --- >> > > > > >> > > > > "Don't go with a spineless ISP; >> > > > > we have more backbone." >> > > > > >> > > > > Alex Rubenstein -- [email protected] -- KC2BUO -- www.nac.net >> > > > > net @ccess corporation, 201-983-0725 -- 201-983-0725 >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > Wayne Bouchard GlobalCenter >> > > [email protected] >> > > Primenet Network Engineering Internet Solutions for >> > > (602) 416-6422 800-373-2499 x6422 Growing Businesses >> > > FAX: (602) 416-9422 >> > > http://www.primenet.com http://www.globalcenter.net >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> > >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Wayne Bouchard GlobalCenter >> [email protected] >> Primenet Network Engineering Internet Solutions for >> (602) 416-6422 800-373-2499 x6422 Growing Businesses >> FAX: (602) 416-9422 >> http://www.primenet.com http://www.globalcenter.net >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > <<<This Space Intentionally Left Blank>>> |